#208 Beyond the Words - Solo 

 1st Sept, 2025

This is a special episode to mark the 5th anniversary and the launch of the audio book version of Leading Beyond the Numbers. 

In this episode I share:


5 reflections from 5 years of podcasting:


Hosting or facilitating

Holding space and listening

The most surprising thing...

The power of voice

Why this podcast still matters to me


A short interview by Rob Lawrence recorded in JMS Group Studios at the end of two days spent fully immersed in recording the audio version of Leading Beyond the Numbers: How accounting for Emotions Tips the Balance at Work 


Susan Ní Chríodáin  is founder of Beyond the Numbers, a consulting, facilitation and coaching practice dedicated to transforming how we interact at work by placing humanity at the heart of leadership. Susan is an award-winning chartered accountant with a Big 4 background, but her career has been anything but traditional. With experience spanning continents and industries, she has combined her financial expertise with an understanding of human dynamics to help leaders and teams thrive. As the author of Leading Beyond the Numbers and host of the Life Beyond the Numbers podcast, Susan champions a fresh approach to leadership — one that embraces the power of emotions, trust and honest conversations to create workplaces where people and results thrive.


Resources Mentioned

Leading Beyond the Numbers - Audio Book


Leading Beyond the Numbers - Print edition


Rob Lawrence  


JMS Group 



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