#227 That Conversation Matters with Janine Van Someren

 June 14th, 2026

"The data really is about giving you an insight that allows a conversation to take place. That conversation can be with yourself. You can journal and you can reflect. You can have a really good chat with your mate who's keen on the data as well. But I would definitely encourage it; it's the conversation that matters about your habits, your environment, your lifestyle. That conversation matters much more than any number can tell you."   Janine van Someren

Janine van Someren  and I talk about her new book, The Wellbeing Advantage: 7 transformative habits to thrive in work and life. Janine spent years studying human performance in elite sport, and then discovering that all that knowledge couldn't protect her from her own body and mind reaching their limits. Now she works with high-performers, mainly in the corporate world, using wearables and recovery scores every day. And yet, when she's with a client, she works hard to take the numbers out of the room. What matters is the conversation it creates. We talk about what it means that you can be resting and not recovering. We talk about why loving your work might put you more at risk of burnout, not less. And we talk about where recovery can actually happen, including at your desk. There's a brilliant question Janine asks her clients: what were you doing today when you completely lost track of time? That's worth knowing.


Dr Janine van Someren is a wellbeing consultant, speaker, and bestselling author of The Wellbeing Advantage. She helps busy professionals make sense of their energy, stress, and health in a way that feels practical, supportive, and achievable. With over 25 years’ experience across high-performance sport and corporate environments, Janine is known for translating complex science into simple habits that work in real life.


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